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    fairyhedgehog

    The biggest issue for me was not knowing who the main character was - the boy or the man. Ray's suggestions are spot on (as usual).

    glj

    I voted no. I agree that the writing flowed well and was clean from a mechanical standpoint, but there was too much set-up and description. Imagery is nice, but you can describe it later, after the reader knows the premise of the story.

    The opening is very distant, indeed. I agree with Ray, if the reader is viewing the setting, the reader should be viewing the place from the boy's eyes. But do it AFTER you bring in the story question. Then, after the basic premise is clear, have the boy assess the surroundings.

    Some overwriting in here. For example, "raised their magnificent heads" really jumped out at me. This is the writer telling the reader how to think of the horses. I would have no problem with it if it were the boy's thought, though.

    “We’re here,” he called to his son who’d just now climbed out of the passenger’s seat. “Nice, isn’t it?”

    This is a classic example of trying to have the dialog reflect real life. But we see the car arrive and have no reason to think the boy doesn't know that the car has stopped and they have arrived, so you can cut the first bit. He could say "Nice, isn't it?". And the "just now climbed out" is both passive and unneeded, especially the "just now" part. Maybe: he called as Jesse climbed out of the passenger seat.

    Kristy

    I did not turn the page. The writing is pretty, but impersonal. Just from the first page, I feel like I've read this story a hundred times before. Travelling/arrival opening scenes are so common that they really need to have some spice on the first page to show us why this story is different.

    Uncomfortable, alienated, not in control of his own life, has to make new friends... We've met this character a thousand times before. What makes THIS boy different? Why should we want to spend the next few hundred pages getting to know him? Give us an idea as to what might be unique about this situation.

    Heather

    I have to agree with everyone else who has posted. I did not turn the page. The writing is nice, and I did get a lovely image of the pastureland, horses, and ranch... but I didn't get any sense of a conflict or even why they were there. If Ray hadn't mentioned it, I would even have realized they had moved and weren't just visiting.

    The last paragraph starts to home in on the boy's viewpoint more, but I think the story should start out in it, too. And I need to know that this is indeed a move and whether the boy thinks it's good or bad.

    John K

    After it passed, they dropped their muzzles to the grass and got back to the business of being horses.
    I love this line, but perhaps too passive for the first page.

    Deb

    Okay, here I go. I am disagreeing with all of the posts and Ray.

    Having two daughters and horses, I have read many, many, middle grade books and many about horses. While I agree showing verses telling is super important in adult & teen books, it increases the word count drastically. Middle grade has a limited amount of space. You will not find a lot of showing in MG- only the parts that really matter get shown.

    Not naming the boy or showing his point of view adds mystery in MG. That is part of the story question-who is this boy? It is not like you have to invest in hundreds of pages to decide if you want to continue reading as in large books.

    And to a young horse-lover, in a story about horses it is important to see the horses. And Ann is spot on- horses always look and then go back to eating. I totally pictured this whole scene. Plus I think it is important to show the lovely scene before getting into the kid's POV, because I have a feeling that this kid will see things differently, which is another part of the draw of this book- the MC may not be lovable, but the horse lover reading this book will be asking how come this kid isn't in thrilled with this kind of set up, and they will read to find out.

    And Ray, paddocks, riding arenas, round pens, and schooling arenas do not make a large stable. I have all of those things, but I do not have a large stable.

    Ann,

    Nice writing. I think that if the market is open for a MG horse book, you will find a home for this one.

    Deb

    PS Ann,
    I'm not sure about the name though, it seems a bit over-used.

    Deb

    PSS by name I meant title.

    Kim

    I think Deb has a really good point. This moves very slowly, but it does feature the horses prominently. The target audience may want that even more than action.

    Personally, I've picked up books before just because the first few lines name-checked some genre elements I liked. Maybe it's something else to keep in mind as a beginning strategy.

    Bree

    I'm going to go out on a limb and disagree with Deb's first comment. In my opinion, the question of "who is this boy?" is not a story question, which is what I want. Rather, it is a way of creating distance from whoever the point of view character is and the reader, which is not typically a desirable move.

    One of the things I've heard time and again about YA is that the connection with the POV character is a huge concern. That younger readers want a main character who they can relate to.

    I thought Ann's world-building was excellent. I really liked the setting and felt confident that I was entering a place that was fully fleshed. I voted no because of the lack of connection to a POV character and the lack of a story question. Like Ray said, if we know that Jesse is moving for the third time and he is very unhappy about it those concerns would most likely be addressed.

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