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    Greg

    Ray, I once read here (somewhere) a comment to the affect that we don’t need (or want) reality in fiction because we have reality in real life. I disagree. And one reason for that disagreement is the oft-stated necessity for a character’s ‘compulsion’ to follow some specific path resulting from the inciting incident.

    In life we are in fact seldom (if ever) faced with compulsions. Rather, we’re faced with choices. Jason Bourne is compelled to do what he must do as a result of circumstances beyond his control. Rocky is not. Bourne is compelled to fight back or die. Rocky is neither compelled to fall in love with Adrian or take the championship fight. For him, these are choices. In Rocky’s mind, these may ultimately rise to the level of compulsion but, if so, the reason needs to be made clear. Hence, the more in depth character exposition. We need to understand Rocky’s choices or he loses credibility.

    It seems to me that the notion of ‘compulsion’ deals less with the character’s frame of mind and more with the nature of the inciting incident. Is the event genuinely ‘compelling’ (looking down the barrel of a gun), or merely offering the character a range of difficult choices (winning the lottery). If the former, fine, start with the inciting incident, as the character’s range of responses are rather limited. But if the latter, should not the inciting incident be postponed a bit and the character better developed so as to provide the reader not only a reasonable understanding of why the character ultimately chooses as he or she does, but also why the inciting incident IS an inciting incident? After all, the lottery winner does have the option of just sticking the money in a bank account and forgetting about it.

    Jami Gold

    Greg,

    That's an interesting thought. Let me see if I understand this correctly.

    If the inciting incident is truly a compulsion for the MC and there isn't much choice involved, then it can (and should) be closer to the beginning of the story.

    However, if the inciting incident creates a choice, where the reader needs to understand the MC a bit better to understand their choice, then it should take place after the reader has seen more about the character to know why they make the choice they do.

    I think I agree with that. :)

    Ray Rhamey

    Regarding timing of the "true" inciting incident--there are no rules as to where to put it. The one requirement is that story questions create the tension needed to get the reader to that point. The "Rocky" example illustrates that. As Donald Maass talks about, use bridging tension to get the reader to the main story.

    So if you want the reader to understand where a character is coming from before the incident hits their life, fine--as long as there is story that keeps me glued to the page.

    Greg

    Okay, that certainly makes sense. Thanks, Ray.

    Doug

    I liked this bit:
    - with something as big and important as narrative perspective, you want to be able to ask yourself why you decided to write the book like that, and the answer can't be "just because."

    PoV choice has profound effects, and the choice does require some thought. And sometimes, it even requires a reworking from one PoV to another.

    My big gripe remains, though: third-person present-tense is just weird. Screenplays, query letters, and synopses should be in 3rd/present, but a novel? I can't imagine. [But then, I'm notorious for failure of imagination.]

    Hmm, maybe I'll experiment with second-person future perfect tense!

    Heather

    So here's a question. If we accept Greg's original choice vs. compulsion theory, would it be necessary to foreshadow the inciting incident in some way in the "choice" scenario?

    This might be a stupid question that everyone else already takes for granted, but I notice that the two books I'm currently reading have both started with world building and character explanations vs. inciting incident. If these authors are good and if Greg's theory holds true, then I assume the inciting incident will be a choice rather than a true compulsion.

    I cheated because I've already read one of the books several times, and it is indeed a (albeit very) difficult choice that the MC eventually faces. The author begins the first chapter with a few sentences about that choice without revealing it, and then launches into the character's life. The book starts with what I would consider, knowing all the facts, an event that is the first in a series of dominoes that lead to the inciting incident, but it is not the exciting, tension-filled, life-changing event that comes later.

    The other book, which I have not read through, also seems to start the first chapter off with world building and character exposition. It did give a long prologue that seems to allude to the nature of the ultimate conflict.

    So, my question (after all that babbling) would be is it good form--if you are starting with character building prior to revealing a choice-based inciting incident--to allude to or foreshadow the event? I find that, no matter the writing level, I do get bored (maybe impatient is a better word) if I don't have some kind of promise of an incident--as if I'm comforted by the author saying "Here is where we're going, now bear with me while I tell you how we get there."


    @ Doug: I have written poems and short stories in 3rd-person, present, and it seemed to be fine for the particular piece. I have not tried writing a novel-length piece in 3rd-person, present. I feel like it would distance the reader from the main characters too much and for too long to really hold a reader's attention through an entire book. I can't really tell you why I feel that way; maybe it's harder to pull a tight perspective, or maybe it's a form that we, as readers (or writers), are just less accustomed to and that makes it feel distant. But when I think about reading pages and pages of 3rd-person, present, I suddenly feel tired--like I would need to be in the right mood to digest it.

    Can anyone recommend a book that fails in 3rd-person, present and one that succeeds for comparison?

    Greg

    Heather,

    “…would it be necessary to foreshadow the inciting incident in some way in the “choice” scenario?”

    I would certainly think so. Otherwise, everything that precedes the inciting incident is just throat clearing. The lead up to the “choice” has to be relevant. And, as Ray notes, provide bridging tension.

    I wrote a short story recently that follows a pattern similar to that of the two books you mention. The inciting incident, such as it is, is simply a choice made by the protagonist. He’s asked to perform in a play. At first he doesn’t want to, and has good reason not to. Ultimately he decides to take the role, but not until halfway through the story. The entire first half is what leads him to make that choice. The reader knows the choice is coming, and it’s a simple one: do, or do not. The bridging tension comprises all that goes into making that choice.

    Now, in a full-length novel I don’t think you can hold off on the inciting incident until chapter 12 or 15, that’s a bit of a stretch. But this is one reason why I like to think of a novel’s opening chapter in terms of a short story. If the inciting incident is a simple choice, use the first chapter to build up tension and suspense to the point that the “choice” is a compelling one. (I’m currently in a major revision of the first couple chapters of a novel I’m working on, as it’s painfully clear I failed to do that the first time around.)

    Doug

    Agent Nathan Bransford stole my idea about second-person future tense:
    http://blog.nathanbransford.com/2010/09/this-week-in-publishing-91710.html

    Okay, my idea was actually future perfect tense. So instead of Bransford's "It will be a dark and stormy night. You will be very cold and wet," I'd have written, "It'll have been a dark and stormy night. You'll have been very cold and wet." (Contractions!)

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