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    tamara

    Ray, great opening with a clear scene and imminent danger! Kudos to you for sticking to your own rules.

    The first 3 paragraphs are all similar size, and I wonder if a few shorter ones might make the passage feel more urgent.

    tmso

    I would not have turned the page. The writing is clear, I was not confused nor did I get bogged down with the phrasing. But I wouldn't have read on simply because the tone is too "cute". Just not my thing.

    Kelley

    I voted no because everything is spelled out so perfectly. There is nothing there to catch my interest or start my curiosity. It's almost like the story questions are already answered. Does that make sense? I'm having a hard time explaining it.

    Maybe instead of the protag telling us exactly what he is (a vampire kitty cat), he should be a little more vague, giving us a hint, just enough to make us curious. Like, "If the coyote knew I could drain his entire body of blood in 30 seconds..." (But, I did not read the first book so I'm not sure if it fits the story.

    Douglas

    A followup note:

    I generally agree with some of the more technical comments above but you want the emotion/feel of the piece.

    The unknown aspect of the kitty still disconcerts. Is a world class predator really worried about becoming digested goo at the paws of a coyote or is the kitty a tease?

    If the former, the tension needs to be shortened and heightened so we feel the threat (not indirectly about what kitties in LA know). If the latter, maybe the cute/casual tone works better but it must be clear (at least by the end of the scene) the kitty realizes there is no threat, only a game.

    Perhaps the basic premise is at issue here. As another reader pointed out, would a vampire kitty be worried about a coyote and if so, why?

    Gumption Brash

    Well, I voted to turn.

    The turn of phrase, the saracastic look on being undead, the tension...all promises an entertaining read.

    The first line, imo, was a bit long for a first line. Almost run-on. But no biggie.

    I do have a perspective that some of the other commentators lack it seems - I've read the first Vampire Kitty-Kat Chronicles when you had it up on Authonomy. Not at all concerned by the premise and I think you balance a number of elements required of a sequel very well.

    Greg

    Ray, honestly I don’t feel anywhere near qualified to critique other people’s work, but I applaud your gumption for writing about kitty-cat vampires. Personally, I prefer my vampires curvaceous, and attired in tight black leather. But, were I a cat-lover (which I am not) and more flexible in my appreciation of vampiric stylings, yeah, I’d be tempted to turn the page.

    Chris

    Treating this snippet of your novel soley on its own, I'd say that there's a lot to like here: I love the premise, the setting is clear, the writing is smooth and it's an effortless read.

    But for me, it just misses for some reason.

    Part of it might be my whole fed-up-to-here-edness with the vampire genre itself. But this piece clearly offers enough of a fun twist that it may be something else. I think I hesitated because of two things -- one minor, one hinting at larger problems -- both of which have already been mentioned above:

    -- The opening line was a clunker for me. Basically, much too much at one swallow, especially the first taste from the book. I would have simply cut it off at "...if you chew on a vampire kitty-cat." It would have had much more impact that way, I think.

    -- But the bigger issue for me is that the scene raises "plausibility" questions in my mind as I read it. Not about whether a kitty-cat vampire could exist -- I'll gladly go along with that because it promises a fun ride. Instead, the hesitancy is more along the lines of, "Sorry, but I'm not buying that a vampire kitty-cat is afraid of being eaten? Shouldn't he now be the predator?" This makes it seem like there's not a strong handle on the mechanics of the conventions of the vampire genre. Most readers are familiar enough with them that we assume that a vampire shouldn't be threatened by a lowly coyote, so it simply causes any real threat of the coyote to fizzle out. We expect that the vampire -- even a kitty-cat vampire -- will easily deal with the coyote. So no real threat = no real tension.

    Or, if your intent is to shake things up and give us a world where the undead-and-unkillable vampire actually SHOULD be afraid of being killed and eaten, then you need to establish and at least a hint that you're clearly doing that with purpose. Something along the lines of having our protag think, "In the movies, the vampires are indestrutible, but I'd already had the misfortune of discovering that wasn't true. Having lost the tip of my tail to a crazed raccoon two nights ago, I didn't want to lose any more of me to this ugly scavanger."

    But as I said, there is a lot to like here. It's very well written, and with a little tweaking, my "almost" would definitely shift over to a "YES."

    Deb

    Most kitty's have a I don't care who or what you think you are, I will kill you if necessary attitude. And I would think it especially true of a vampire kitty. This cat seems more like Garfield, except it likes to get eaten rather than do the eating.

    I had a cat that was chased up a telephone pole by a German Sheppard that had already torn a hole in my large dog. The cat stayed for five minutes, got super fired up, came down, and chased the German Sheppard all around the neighborhood. The once ferocious dog was terrified of her.

    And if this vampire cat really thought it might get eaten then its first thought would be for its on welfare not what would happen to the coyote.

    Even though there is no such thing as vampire kitties, there needs to be some level of believability, and that is why I voted no.

    Ray Rhamey

    On vampire conventions--yes, a writer has to be aware of them. But Twilight has completely changed the can't-go-out-in-sunlight convention, right? My character is clearly concerned about being chewed up and swallowed, so he clearly knows that he's not invulnerable in the ways classic vampires are not--this is called "showing." If a reader stops because they can't believe a vampire can be endangered (a story question), then this story is just not for them. If every piece of vampire/werewolf/zombie fiction followed all the conventions, and if readers were not willing to entertain variations, then there would not have been the huge wave of paranormal fiction that has sold millions of books. If the first page story and action are not provocative enough, that's fair. Just stop reading. But to say you can't read on because it doesn't seem like you're following the conventions doesn't hold water for me.

    Jami Gold

    Ray,

    As I have read the original book, I do understand and appreciate the conventions you're using and breaking. But like any follow-up book in a series, you need to tread a fine line between re-establishing certain world-building concepts for new readers and doing a boring retread of information for returning readers.

    Given that goal, I think Chris makes a valid point of including a sentence to establish that 'yes, you're doing this on purpose' wouldn't hurt. Even just the first sentence that Chris suggested would accomplish that, I think: "In the movies, the vampires are indestructible, but I'd already had the misfortune of discovering that wasn't true."

    Hope that helps!

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