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    Lexi Revellian

    I had problems with the language. Douglas, do you read your work out loud? It shows up awkward passages. The second sentence, 'An outsider often made an outcast, this night he exacted retribution' held me up for a bit working out the syntax.

    There must be a name for when you are told a lot about the subject of a sentence before you discover who he/she/it is. It's kind of irritating. This sort of thing:

    Bright yellow-green with a tracery of curving lines, furry texture wearing in places, flying faster than a bird, the tennis ball smashed into the net.

    It generally means you're trying to cram in too much information, too.

    glj

    I was interested in the prologue, but you lost my interest in the first page. I like historical fiction. I like WWII fiction. Your prologue starts with intriguing action and plausible and potentially interesting characters. What worked for me was the action. The action and the history. Most people know about the war and the evil Nazis, so you already are relieved of telling as much back story as if you were writing an alternative history piece. And everyone knows Nazis are the bad guys, so you have that covered. But since the events of WWII are generally known, where you will find power is in the struggles and plights of the main characters. Without creating reader involvement with the characters, you may have a relatively dry plot, compared to a completely fictional story with a unique plot line.

    My problems with this are: a) character remoteness, as noted by Ray, and b) over-written in places, leading me to think the manuscript as a whole might be rather tedious.

    The remoteness is usually caused by the writer "telling" the reader what the character is seeing and experiencing, instead of making the reader experience the character's sensations. It is a subtle difference, but can create a distance that leaves the reader uninvolved. For example, "Richard Kast hated to fly." This is telling. "Cramped inside the cargo hold of an RAF transport, he winced at a sudden drop in altitude and fought roiling spasms in his stomach and throat." Here, you make us feel it. Plus, this is inside the character’s head. Telling us he hated to fly is outside the character’s head. BIG difference.

    Suggestion: "Cramped inside the cargo hold of an RAF transport, Richard Kast winced at a sudden drop in altitude and fought roiling spasms in his stomach and throat. He had never been able to experience rough air without the feeling of panic."

    "The horrific defeat on home soil only six weeks into the Second World War raised serious concerns about Britain’s defenses and caused widespread public outrage. Parliament demanded an immediate explanation and the Admiralty, in charge of harbor security, hastily assembled a Board of Inquiry."

    This feels too much like an excerpt from a history book. You need to express this as the character reflecting on his assignment. "He hated being on the Board of Inquiry. But a ship in Scapa flow, Britain's safest harbor, had exploded, killing . . . It had to have been a German U-boat. But how could it have penetrated the best harbor defenses in the world? Something wasn't right."

    By overwritten, I mean that it seems too dramatic at times, as if you are trying to force the reader into feeling the emotions that you want the reader to have. I would prefer that you show why the reader should be alarmed and then trust the reader to get it. For example: “An outsider often made an outcast, this night he exacted retribution.” It seems a bit preliminary to sum up the character like this in the SECOND sentence of the book, plus this is a bit overly dramatic.

    Doug

    I voted "no" on the prologue. I almost always vote no on prologues. This one didn't contain any information that I needed to know to understand Chapter 1. In fact, much of it was repeated on the first page.

    I voted "yes" on Page 1, with considerable reservations. The big story issue is there, and we know who the protagonist is, but not much else. There's not much tension in the scene, aside from whether Kast will hurl or not.

    The first sentence is a throw-away. We'll find out in the very next sentence that Kast gets air-sick. I wouldn't waste the first sentence like that.

    The final two paragraphs are definitely telling and not showing. Let us see what Kast thinks and feels about the events. Let us see what he's expected to *do* about the situation. I'd think that it'd be reasonable that he at least reviews the situation in his mind to try to get his mind off of his airsickness.

    The final paragraph was particularly rough. A ship was sunk on home *soil*? Did they call it "the Second World War" back then (the term seems to have been coined in 1942)? Is it necessary to tell us that the Admiralty is in charge of harbor security?

    Overall, starting with a travel scene isn't usually the best choice. There might be a later scene that would be a more powerful opening.

    Q of D

    I lost track of the story because I started counting adverbs and adjectives instead.

    Of course that's me looking at it from a writer's perspective, but others have also noticed craft problems and likely an agent and/or publisher would, too.

    So while I can't comment on the story I can tell you that the writing compelled me to vote no on both.

    Deb

    I voted yes and yes. But I agree with the overwriting, telling, and POV errors plus a few missed commas and grammar issues. With that being said I think you have the makings of a fine book, and all of the above mentioned items happen all of the time in published books. I believe the question is can you get a page turned and IMO the answer is yes with both prologue and chapter.

    Dan

    Resist, with all your might, the urge to put backstory in the first chapter. Hooking a reader's interest is paramount.

    Deb

    I should have said that I am hooked on where the story is going.

    Greg

    I’m gonna second Deb’s comments. Needs a lot of work, but the storyline alone was more than enough to capture my interest. Clean up the writing, Douglas, and there’ll be a copy in my library.

    Jami Gold

    I voted no and no. As others have mentioned, the writing was tangled (too many leading clauses before the main subject phrase, as well as some dangling modifiers), distant (telling), and filled with backstory info dumping.

    I should never have to read a sentence more than once to make sense of it. If I do, you've lost me.

    Get deeper into POV and many of these issues would probably fix themselves.

    Kelley

    Sorry, two No votes from me. It's just too much information at once. I couldn't even tell what was happening without reading it several times. My mind was consumed by all the information and couldn't find the story.

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