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    Deb

    Besides Ray's comments the thing that really bothers me about this page is you have introduced three characters and I didn't know anything about any of them. And switching POV's from Martha to Clara and back was really confusing. If it is Clara's POV the whole time then that needs to be made clearer in the beginning. Such as Clara watched Martha cover....

    Christine H

    I voted "yes" because I don't know anything about Clara Barton and would like to, so I'd probably turn the page just out of curiosity.

    But I agree that introducing too many characters too quickly, all with their own points of view, was confusing. I was also confused as to why all the people were in the barn, instead of the house, and why Martha felt sickened when she went to see them. It also appears that there was a fire in the barn. How is that possible? Was it converted to living quarters?

    Great concept. I would definitely keep working on it! I don't mind omniscient narratives, but I do prefer to have each complete scene from one character's point of view.

    Norm

    The first two paragraphs had me. I thought that this could be a very interesting to learn about Ms Barton though I did stumble on "the war." Of course it was the Mexican-American War, but it took me out of the story and put me into encyclopedia mode.

    It was for the last two paragraphs that caused the no vote for me. The head hops jarred me. And then another head hop and the telling (not showing) with "Stephen looked at her, his heart sinking." clinched it.

    I agree on too many characters. Unless Sarah comes back in some manner perhaps she could be referred to as Clara's mother? This would put us in Clara's POV and start to anchor us as to whose story this is.

    I like the concept but I'm thinking that ten historical women is too much. It's okay for Clara to meet others but try to weave them together is overly (IMHO) ambitious.

    It occurs to me that if this is a bit of a romance genre novel then head hopping is much more accepted than in other genres.

    There is some nice writing. "The chilly air reddened her nose, and she tightened her jacket..." was good though it is a head hop when we go to her "shivering skin."

    Good luck.

    Lexi Revellian

    Is Christmas Day ever on any date other than December 25th?

    Ray's pointed out the craft issues. My overall advice is to think about the reader, who requires to be entertained, or she will stop reading.

    Doug

    This florid, languid, 3rd-person omniscient, passive style of writing was popular in the 1800s, but it's been out of fashion for more than a century.

    In 1900, Mark Twain took a swing at it: "The fact is, my friends, that the fashion in literature changes, and the literary tailors have to change their cuts or go out of business... I don’t believe any of you have ever read Paradise Lost, and you don’t want to... It’s a classic, just as Professor Winchester says, and it meets his definition of a classic—something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read."
    (http://marktwainclassics.com/marktwain/disappearance-literature-speech/)

    That doesn't make this style 'wrong'. You're the author and you can write however you want. But the style *is* unpopular today. Few people want to read that style these days, and virtually nobody wants to publish it (precisely because few want to read it).

    FTQ is very much oriented in the opposite direction: writing fiction in today's high-stakes, high-action, close-PoV style that immediately grabs the modern reader and makes them want to read instead of flip on the TV or surf the Web.

    If this excerpt is in the style you want to write in, this site probably isn't going to be much help to you.

    I'll throw one specific note in here: The sentence "Clara was now barely thirty years old, and had lived with her family ever since" left me wondering, "Since what???"

    Merima T.

    Hello all!

    Sorry for not commenting earlier. I just saw the posts and 'flogging' and wanted to thank all of you. This is a first draft, and I'm glad to see where I can improve. Re-reading this shows me that, again, there were too many characters introduced. As to the style of writing, I had originally planned to jump back and forth as the characters are spaced out in totally different time eras, but I'll make sure to try and "liven" up the language.
    As to the whole "barn", what had happened was that Clara's mother had died and it was customary for the men to leave the house when a woman was giving birth. I'll make sure to clear that up.

    Overall, I am currently reading more on crafting, and will be sending a 2nd draft probably after the summer. I haven't gotten to work much on it since, but I know that summer will give me the chance to hopefully fix a lot of the mistakes it has right now. I can see now that Clara and Martha's point of view is rather "mushed together" and I realize that this is because (At the time) I had been toying with what to start off with. This way, I had started with Clara, and then jumped from Martha. My mistake.

    Thank you all for the comments, and hope you comment again when the 2nd draft is done,
    Merima!

    Christine H

    Merima, don't listen to Doug. I love him, he's a great guy, and often has valuable input, but in this case he is wrong. There are lots of books written today in a style similar to yours. They just happen to be literary novels, not genre novels such as those popular with readers of this website.

    My suggestion to you is to browse a major bookstore in the section you think your book would fit (historical fiction, most likely) and read a bunch of first pages of books recently published. That will give you a good idea of the market.

    Christine H

    P.S. I should have said "literary or historical romance," as the style does remind me a lot of many historical romances I've picked up.

    hope101

    Merima, you're already running with the feedback, so I'll just add in my two cents about one issue: while head-hopping is occasionally permitted in romance, the trend is very much against it as well, even in historical fiction.

    Merima T.

    Hello once again!
    I have been reading a bit on books for historical fiction that will give me a wider range of ideas for the novel. As to the head-hopping, I am thinking to just limit it to just 3rd person.


    Thanks!
    Merima

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