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    Deb

    One thing about starting with the second, you definitely know where the story is going. However if this intended for YA I find it too graphic and no reason to care the character. I'm sorry if that sounded a harsh, but as a parent of two teen girls, neither one of them would want to accidently pick this book up. They were upset with PC Cast's semi-detailed sexual scenes, and the story had appeal up until that point for them. My daughter's are 14 and 18. You can use less detail to describe the same scene and make it viable for a young audience. So far to me this hasn't got anything to draw me into the scene. It just sounds like an everyday teenage nightmare and very depressing. Definitely not something I would want most teens reading whose lives are bleak enough.

    hope101

    Tami, I said no to both, but I was very close on the second. I have suggestions about what would have pulled me in.

    The first piece, IMHO, is tantamount to backstory. While it raises story questions that interest me, and I like the clarity of the voice, the narrator feels too distant from events to compensate for the fact they're already past. I did like this line, though: "That was the awakening of the hunger."

    In the second, you've raised a few pretty critical issues. The problem for me is that I don't feel them. That's a function, IMHO, of the narrator still telling the story above the level of sensory detail, as experienced by her. She's analyzing. The psychic distance is too much for me to feel the punch in the gut of losing her virginity in such an ill-thought out way and having so little insight into how she's going to feel about it after the fact.

    This is very clumsy, but I'm sometimes better at showing what I mean. What if you went deeper, so that the first paragraph went something like this?

    He had barely closed the door behind us when his lips found mine. They felt firmer than I'd expected, and...etc.

    If you can sink into the POV of the character so that we live it with her, you'd probably also catch what I feel is a POV error with a modern-day adolescent saying words like "glory of my body". When he's breathing it in her ear, and we hear what he actually says, it'll be so much cruder and real. (Unless he's swallowed a Compendium of Longfellow. ;)

    Anyway, my 2 cents. Honestly, you have a nice voice and pretty significant story questions. If you can make me breathe through her lungs, I'd have turned.

    hope101

    Er, that should say, "If you can make me breathe through her lungs, I'll turn."

    Marcel

    The writing, the voice, the flow was all very good. However, what didn't work for me is that there was nothing new in this piece that I haven't seen innumerable times in movies and shows (I don't read YA). You may have something original to this hackneyed theme later on, but it didn't show up in the samples. So I said no to both (mainly no on the second sample because I didn't sympathize with the main character). If you could bring something more original to the opening pages, I think it would work to your advantage, because like I said initially, you've got a handle on everything else.

    Good luck.

    Jon

    Hi, Tami!

    Both of these were a yes for me - for me, the second needed the first.

    I actually don't have much to critique here. The summary voice WAS telly, but it was a very engaging telling and sucked me in. It's a trifle overwritten ("words pertaining to my beauty"), and maybe the 4 paragraphs in the beginning do each feel a little like their own beginning. But as long as it didn't keep going like that, I'm in.

    The second sample, the word "harlot" struck me as hackneyed; the piece will have to sell the Voice as a real old-time biblical type to make me believe it.

    Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.

    Renee Yancy

    Tami, I thought it was interesting and well written.

    I think some editing could be done to make the prose flow even better.

    For instance, when I read "Eighth grade ended with the onslaught of puberty, my freshman year wrought with the awkwardness of certain body parts trying to morph from bony and girlish to womanly, and by the time I entered my second year of high school I had curves in, according to the boys, all the right places."

    WOW - that's a long sentence!

    I mentally rewrote it as:

    "Eighth grade ended wih the onslaught of puberty. Freshman year brought the awkwardness of body parts morphing from bony to womanly. And by the time I entered my sophomore year, I had curves in all the right places. According to the boys, anyway."

    You catch my drift. At the very least I would break that sentence up into two. But this is all part of learning the craft, a never ending process.

    Take what helps and leave the rest. And keep going!

    Christine H

    Tami, I voted yes for both, though this isn't usually my genre to read or write. I love your voice, and am assuming something good is going to happen to this character. I actually liked the first version better. It actually sounds like a woman looking back on her youth, which is what makes me think that she is telling the story from a perspective of "This is what I thought my life was going to be, but look how it turned out! All the pain was worth it in the end."

    I loved that sentence about the "morphing from bony to womanly." I don't think you should chop it up.

    Just my opinion, of course.

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