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    Margo Kelly

    Thanks Ray! I value your opinion. Anyone who'd like to read the entire first chapter may do so at my website:
    www.margokelly.net

    TamaraL

    The first paragraph made me think the character was self-mutilating or committing suicide and I recoiled in horror. My stomach did that squoogy flippy thing and I actually pulled back from the computer. At first glance, it seems more gruesome than the scene actually is.

    The sentences, grammar, etc. are all quite good, and the story is interesting.

    Rebecca

    I actually would have turned the page. After reading the critique, I would agree about voice. And the two-week thing got me, too. Typically, writing coaches say to start the story after the inciting event. So perhaps the first time he cut himself and watched his skin heal would have been more interesting (and felt more urgent) than two weeks later.

    But I would have turned the page just to see what happened. If the voice continued to be so strangely detached, I wouldn't have continued after that. But I was interested.

    Jon

    "Claire-bear? Is that you? What is Horn-Rim-Glasses Guy going to do when he finds you in a YA novel? :op"

    Hiya, Margo.

    The above was my first thought when I finished the first paragraph of your piece. The TV show Heroes (great 1st season, mostly crud thereafter, RIP) pretty well explored this territory. Not that you can't or shouldn't, but if you're not aware of it, you should be, since it's still fresh in folkses minds. Your setup here seems very close to what they did with Claire on that show; you'll have to take care to differentiate your work from the show.

    Now, on to the content. I did vote yes on this, if barely. There're two mysteries here that I imagine won't be solved on page 2. The first, the obvious one, is "why her?". The second, "okay, now what?", is the one that got me to turn the page. If she does something productive (and imaginative) with this on page 3 or 4, I keep reading; if she spends all her time investigating why her, why now, I probably put the book down. Others' reactions may vary.

    The first line should, IMO, go -- it's not a bad first line, but it's inaccurate. Something's already changed in her, and now she's trying to figure it out. A better first line might be "Blood glistened on the razor in my hand."

    The dream-line in p1 should probably go; if you cut yourself and it heals -- and if you've been auto-repairing for weeks -- you've probably already come to terms with the thing as a fact of life, if a weird and cool one.

    Why it's taken her two weeks to start experimenting with razor blades is another question I have. Once she's proven that she can heal, and over and over again, why keep doing it? Time to move on!

    paragraph 2 - the bit "but the cuts had already disappeared". There's still cleanup to do; she's still covered with blood. So the phrasing there doesn't quite work. Close, but not quite.

    And why would mom think she'd imagine the injuries, when her clothes were covered in blood? That's a pretty oblivious mom; if she's not dead-drunk or blind, she's at best a negligent parent.

    Y'know, going through it line by line this way, the logic gaps in this whole setup is really starting to bug me. I think I just pushed myself to the other side of the yes/no line :o(

    I think I'd rather that this piece started with her already in motion, rather than debating the questions here. There is a nice mystery here (or two, as discussed), but those both could be addressed in motion, rather than with this relatively static beginning.

    If, however, she's experimenting on herself - using different materials to make the wounds, coating her wounds with different substances to see the effects, sticking foreign objects in herself to see what happens when the skin heals (ouch, hope she didn't have any piercings...) --- then she's already in motion. But with this beginning, the questions raised are good, but probably not good enough to carry editors to page 2.

    As a side note, if you keep the current flow, I'd find a way to break up that paragraph 3 - probably on However.

    Also, since we're working in the past tense of a past tense story, you'd probably want "She'd also said" and "She'd smiled."

    Good luck with this piece! Thanks for sharing!

    -Jon

    Margo Kelly

    Thanks for pointing out problems that seem obvious now... ha. I was too close to the work and too much inside the characters' heads to see the writing from a fresh perspective. I will clean up the time frame and reconsider starting with the bicycle accident rather than the cutting. I will also improve the mother's reaction.

    My only question at this point is: if I start with the bicycle accident, will I still be able to pose the necessary story questions on the first page?

    I guess the only way to find out is to write it and see what works better.

    Thanks again for your input.
    Margo

    Deb

    Ray,
    Why did you change this sentence to present tense?
    "Mom refused refuses to let me drive the car by myself even though I had have my driver’s license."

    And not these?
    "But, Dad was always in a hurry. Rarely did he slow down to do anything with us, let alone listen"

    I'm really new to this, so I'm afraid I'm missing something.

    Thanks, Deb

    Ray Rhamey

    Deb, it has to do with the nature of first-person narration. The narrator is in some kind of present relating past events. But some things are factors in the narrator's present--in this case, the narrator's mom currently won't let her drive as well as back then, and she still has her driver's license.

    Doug

    I've held back on commenting because I'm 40+ years past being a YA reader. Keep that in mind as you read my comments: I'm not *so* your audience.

    It's said that a plot is a premise plus a complication. This page presents a premise, but not a complication. Going back to the bicycle accident won't help, in my opinion. The story needs to start later, at the point where this quick-healing ability puts the protagonist into a situation that she couldn't normally have been in--a situation that prevents a return to normal teenage life.

    In Painkiller Jane, Jane's rapid healing doesn't affect the pain associated with cuts, falls, beatings, gunshot wounds, etc.--it just means that she hurts for a shorter time. Your protagonist doesn't remark at all on the pain of the bicycle accident or the cuts. For most of us, it's the pain rather than the bleeding that would be a concern.

    Has she kept this secret from her best friend for two weeks?

    By the way, I'm assuming from a couple of clues that the protagonist is female. Has she had her period since the bicycle incident, and was that affected?

    Story aside, for this non-YA person the writing was too leisurely. If I were the author, I would have stripped the redundancy and unnecessary words and replaced them with what the protagonist thinks and feels about what's happening and what it means to her. This is first-person point of view, and I expect more than a detached observation of facts.

    Deb

    Thanks Ray. I think that is something I may have over looked in my own pages. BTW I love the book Flogging the Quill. It has ehlped me tremendously.

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