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    Aimee Laine

    My issue is very superficial. The word 'cigarette' shows up 4-5 times and while I know it was allowed back then, I can't get over that it was and the repetition brings back too much negativity for me. Ack. Hack. Ick. :) That's probably off-the wall thinking, but it's something that struck me and stopped me. :)

    Jean

    I liked the voice wondered why he was so nervous about flying or if he was going into a tense situation once he landed. I would have read on to find out. However, after reading Ray's comments that the flight ends fine and nothing conflict oriented really happens in the rest of the, I would have disappointed.

    WDW

    Hi Jan,

    I think mostly I'd like to know why Frank was traveling from England to South Africa.

    To focus so sharply from the beginning on one of Frank's quirks (fear of flying) makes me think that you're writing a head book; all about Frank's head. If so, then your start may be a good one. But if Frank's fear of flying (or other quirks) is not a central theme and is soon to be moved-on-from, then I think I'd rather want to know up front a bit about who Frank is, and why he's traveling.

    In support... I think your sentence structure is accurate and accomplished. And you've well described an "at-this-very-moment" scene.

    And somehow I think you've got me syntaxing like a Brit, but I'm most certainly not!!!

    Gumption Brash

    Liked the voice, but this opening didn't pose any questions I'd have liked an answer to.

    I suggest you mention something about why Frank is flying. To my mind that is essential information a reader would like to know - that could then lead to more interesting questions.

    Regards,

    Margo Kelly

    I liked the voice, however some of the content made me stop a couple of times. I understand it's 1988, but I had to stop and think back if cigarettes were still allowed then. Why give the reader something to stop on? Make the reader move forward. Then, if he's rudely smoking (which today's readers would still consider it a social taboo even though it's set 22 years ago), why would he so easily give into the flight attendant? Female flight attendants certainly weren't highly respected as "authority" figures back then. So, while I voted "yes" because I liked your voice and I wanted to find out if the plane was going to crash (which I'm sad to hear Ray say nothing exciting happens on the following pages) ... I almost voted no because I didn't believe the character's choices.

    TamaraL

    Where's Ray's version with the edits? I always enjoy that.

    Nice start Jan!

    Paragraph 1: you don't need the word small, it's better without it.

    Paragraph 3 first sentence: in my head, I heard the line as an announcement over the speakers, so it was jarring when I read it was actually the stewardess. If you put the speaker tag before the line, that will help.

    Paragraph 4: a bit clunky for Point of View. POV is tough, and I certainly struggle with it myself! But if we're seeing Frank's thoughts, the narrator is nearly in Frank's head for perspective. I don't think Frank would let the narrator say he is cowed or submissive.

    Lesley

    As his head swung back his cigarette narrowly escaped contact with the crotch of the brisk airhostess who was hurrying the passengers into their safety belts.

    I have a problem with this scene. Is it possible?

    Marcel

    I almost voted yes, as well. The first line (it's a great one--love the hiccup) and voice drew me in. But like most, I think something plot-related should happen in the first chapter (which, per Ray, didn't happen). There should be context given to what the story will be about.

    You mention that the journey started in Liverpool, so there's no need for the "from England" in: ...walked the six thousand miles from England to South Africa. It's unnecessary repetition.

    Also, if there were previous "landing approaches" then I'd mention that this was the "third" (choose a number) try. It's a break in POV for him to assume it's the final one (it could be another try).

    The cigarette and crotch dynamics confused me too. I'd clarify by saying this stewardess was walking toward the back of the plane.

    I too thought "Cowed by authority," was a POV break. The paragraph reads better without it. It's also telling what his reaction shows. "Fraught with tension," is the same thing.

    This just needs fine-tuning, IMO. And getting to the story ASAP. If it was really short--a page or two--you might be able to get away with it (so, get rid of the baggage check and the background about his family, etc).

    Good luck.

    jon

    Hi, Jan!

    This one was a no for me, alas. (Though, see the last paragraph.)

    I don't -hate- the piece... but I just found nothing to make me love it, either. The writing is generally sound (if a tad overwritten), so that's in the piece's favor. But...

    The first sentence was off-putting - a lengthy "as..." clause to begin the piece, followed by the actual action, followed by an "in" clause made the whole of it kinda murky for me.

    (I might actually lead with the white knuckles bit, leaving the fact that he's in a plane 'til sentence 2...and maybe cutting it altogether. )

    I did like sentence 2 in par1, though for some reason it made me think of Duke in Doonesbury.

    In par2, the plane going from turbulence to landing approach in the span of a breath seemed unrealistic to me.

    The line "Cowed by authority, Frank smiled submissively" was redundant.

    Also in the last paragraph, "anxiety" can't be fraught with stuff -- situations are fraught with (filled with/defined by) anxiety.

    Oh, and one logistical point - shouldn't the stewardesses (would that be the appropriate '88 term, btw?) have already buckled their folks up BEFORE final approach? Because if they're about to go into a steep bank, as they apparently did, it's gonna get messy...

    (also, if they're in turbulence, wouldn't that have required buckle-in?)

    All that said... I got the sense in par2 that the bathroom was important to Frank, but it didn't seem to define his actions in any paragraph. It thus minimized the import of the bathroom to him, and gave me no "goal" to work with. Instead, we have a guy on a plane who's scared of flying and, in 2 paragraphs of 4, has thoughts related to the toilet.

    All THAT said... though I voted no, on re-reading the sample, MAYBE it's a yes. Because with so much fear in Frank, I kinda want to see if the plane crashes.

    But if Frank doesn't do something main-charactery in the first paragraph of page 2, I think I'd put the book down.

    Good luck with this piece! Thanks for sharing!

    -j

    J Nicholson

    Many thanks for the thoughtful comments. The book is a humorous character-driven story about emigration. Here is the pitch. If you want to read more the book is up on the Authonomy website.

    Is home more than ‘where the heart is’?

    When Frank Turner informs his wife and teenage son they are emigrating from Liverpool to sunny South Africa, he is unprepared for their hostile response. His defiant son makes his own silent protest, and his wife’s assertion that “we never shoulda come” is parroted at every minor calamity.

    The bewildered working-class scousers are thrust into an alien world of servants, strange African customs, unintelligible accents, and unexpected wild life (‘crocodiles’ on the wall).

    Their uneasy interactions with Zulu servants, Afrikaner neighbours, and foreign officialdom exposes their naivety, but they each learn to cope in their own individual way; Mavis overcoming homesickness by hugging the knowledge that when Frank’s contract ends they can return home; Gerry’s sullen resentment giving way to love of the outdoor life, and Frank masking his own doubts with blustering optimism and bantering sarcasm.

    Having overcome culture shock, the arrival of Mavis’s parents introduces a divided loyalty when Gert and Walter’s National Health glasses and ill-fitting dentures are seen through the eyes of the Turner’s new South African friends. And when Mavis’s sister ‘our Treesa’ and her opinionated husband Clive visit, Mavis surprises herself by hotly defending SA.

    The turning point comes when the family return to Liverpool for a holiday. Gerry has outgrown his former feral friends, Mavis realises she is now an expat; a misfit in her former home, and Frank has fresh misgivings about their future.

    If home means a sense of belonging –where do the Turners belong?

    Set in 1988, BUT CAN YOU DRINK THE WATER? uses subtle observational humour, with an underlying pathos, to portray the upsets, hurt and changing family dynamics that emigration brings.
    It will appeal to fans of Educating Rita and Shirley Valentine, and to expats, and potential expats worldwide.


    J Nicholson

    Thought I would share the good news. 'But Can You Drink The Water?' has made it to the quarter finals of the Amazon Breakthrough Novel Award. Even if it doesn't go further it's exciting to be one of the top 250 out of 5000 entries.

    Ray Rhamey

    Way to go! Keep us informed.

    hope101

    Just saw this, courtesy of the new comment section in the left sidebar. Congratulations and good luck!

    J Nicholson

    More exciting news. 'But Can You Drink The Water?' has now made it to the ABNA semi-finals (top 50 out of 5000). The review of the full manuscript from Publishers Weekly ends with these encouraging comments:
    'What sustains this book, however, is the narrative voice, the dry and self-deprecating humor, and the ability of this author to tell a story simply and well.'

    Ray Rhamey

    Excellent news, Jan. Fingers crossed!

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