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    Darla

    I was enjoying the first opening and the build up to the cop at the window, but then scene deflated like the tire. I'd expected something more.

    The second opening brought me to a pause with the off hand mention to the two men they'd met right after the mention of waiting for her husband. I gave up trying to figure out who they were or why they brought up doubts despite being helpful. Then she wanders off into other thoughts with nothing really happening.

    Dori

    Of the two, I find the first more compelling. You definitely get a sense that Dad is nervous. I like the helpful cop bit. It shows a change of expectations. However, for womens fiction, it's a little odd to have James as the first character we meet. Could the same scene be told from the wife's point of view?

    Justina

    I like women's fiction, but this just didn't do it for me. There's no sense of any sort of stakes here. So they moved to a small town...okay, now what? Usually in women's fiction the MC's personality is larger than life, and readily available from the first page. I have no sense of your MC, and that bothered me. I voted "no" both times.

    Hope that helps.

    Mysti

    I also liked the first scene better but agree with Dori that the MC should take center stage immediately - so if you rewrite the scene in Libby's POV, (just to give you an example) - maybe her husband is getting pulled over and we're hearing her internal thoughts/ dialogue of panic, disgust, or alarm - whatever it is. Whatever your story is about (the theme) - needs to show up on the first page. Also I caught some descriptions that sounded kind of cliche in your 2nd scene - so watch for those: "eyes for soul" and "moved to Dodge". I'm sure the writing could be a little more creative to peek interest for readers. Good luck and keep at it.

    kathy

    Between the two I liked the first one better, but being pulled over for tire pressure? Not sure.

    Christine H

    I really liked the first one. The second one was kind of boring.

    No, Ray, you don't get women's fiction! :oP As my mom says, she likes books "where nothing really happens." Meaning, a gentle story that can be enjoyed, not read on a roller-coaster.

    I do think there is a the small-town feel in the first version, but I also don't think low tire pressure is really a reason to get pulled over, is it? How about a broken tail light, but instead of a ticket, the cop gives them advice on who in town is best to fix it?

    Jessica

    I like "women's fiction" too, but not enough really happens in these snips to keep my attention.

    When I say "happens," I'm not talking about explosions and car chases. A lot of what I enjoy in "women's fiction" (as much as I hate the term) is the characters' introspection, thoughts, feelings about what is happening. Inner conflict can be as interesting as external conflict. For instance, if the MC is driving into a small town, or his/her hometown, it looks friendly and perfect, but s/he *doesn't want to be there* in a really big way.

    There was some of this in the second snip, which I thought was the more interesting snip.

    Best of luck with it!

    Jessica

    Christine H

    I wanted to add that although there isn't a lot of tension in the first example, there is enough about the characters to make me instantly like them and want to know more about them. To me, that is the key to women's fiction. I think the sample does that very well, and would want to read the rest of the book. With my cup of tea and blueberry scones. ;o)

    I'm sure my mom would! I hope that's helpful to the author.

    Gayton

    Interest-wise, I prefer the first snip to the second, but I'm thinking something further on in the scene must be more interesting and more revealing of the main character than either of these two snips.

    I don't necessarily need anything particularly exciting in women's fiction, but it should be revealing -- and the main character should be clear right from page one. Here, it's hard to tell which is the main character. I'm assuming from the second piece and the fact that it's women's fiction that it's Libby, but in the first piece the only head we see into is James's, and he's also the first person we hear about. If I had known nothing else, I would have assumed he was the main character. (Just an opinion -- I think either first person or tight third person point of view works best for woment's fiction, and it should probably be a woman's point of view.)

    I read a piece of advice somewhere suggesting that the very first piece of dialogue for each character -- especially the main character -- should reveal something important about the main character. I don't think that's the case here. However, I'll bet there is something like that further on, and Rose should start there. Libby seems worried about gossip -- why? Their money is low. Why? And how does Libby feel about it? Why are they moving to a small town if they're so worried about small town gossip?

    The second piece is a bit too much internal ruminating for the opening. I'm sure we'll want to hear all of that stuff, but not quite yet.

    From Ray's description of the rest of the chapter, it shounds like they may have moved, at least in part, because of the teenage girl's bad associates. If so, and if that's important to the book, maybe it could open with an exchange between the mother and daughter, in a way that will foreshadow what's to come or reveal a sense of each of them and the relationship between them.

    von

    I liked the first scene. Not that I normally read womens fiction. For me it was a nice tension between the dads expectation (being pulled over by a cop is always a bad, impersonal thing) vs the new small town effect (hey, you have a tire thats bad, don't want you to get in a wreck).

    Sort of the opposite from the 'Crocodile Dundee' effect where he goes to the big city and finds everything bizarre.

    I probably wouldn't read the book in the first place (unless the blurb had told me that we were likely to find aliens or a mysterious magic wardrobe in the small town) but for that genre I was OK with the first scene.

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