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    Deana

    I think most of Ray's comments are spot-on, although I didn't care for this particular correction:

    Ray wrote:

    "The hood shadowed a scarred and mangled face. William took a step back from the man’s stench."

    Those don't really flow very well.

    But Richard, it does sound like an interesting story. The only suggestion I'd add for you is to read, read, read, and really examine closely what successful authors do. Look specifically at how they pace and structure their scenes, mix action with narrative, and carefully choose which details to include.

    That, and keep re-writing. Think of it like gold mining. You might have to sift a lot of mud to get at those shining nuggets!

    Kim

    What I like here is that you seem to be starting with a very interesting story--what's not to like about tall, dark, and smelly, appearing on your doorstep?

    The way it's written right now, though, it's just not working for me. I think the problem is that the protag just isn't coming through. This has got to be a pretty unusual type to knock on the door--what does he think about it? Is he scared? Puzzled? Mad about the cost of cleaning the carpets? He's answering the door, but he's not really *there* yet, for me as a reader.

    Sheila

    I remember this - he dies, right? I couldn't find it in the archives, so I may be saying exactly what I said before. If so, sorry.

    I agree with Ray that you need to increase the tension in this opening. And the way to do that is to get into this man's head and slow things down while adding hints that lure us onward.

    For instance, imagine you are sitting at your desk working and you become aware of an awful smell (is that how you did it before? the smell, then the knock?) The smell - that's the lure, amplify it. It's someone's rotten lunch, no it's worse than that, it's the dead raccoon that got caught in the basement, etc.

    Then comes the knock.

    But why would this guy knock? He's a swampy murderer . . . with manners? Maybe he tries to open the door, but can't because it's locked, so we just hear a little jiggling. The man in the office, is he annoyed? perplexed? He doesn't suspect anything, but we readers know something is out there - draw us in slowly. Is the knock a scraping kind of knock, or a bash-the-door down kind of knock?

    Good luck!

    Kami

    Sheila made a good point about the knocking. I really rather like the idea of a polite zombie, though. It tickles me.

    "Excuse me. I'm here to kill you. So sorry. It's not so bad, though, trust me on that."

    It may be that I'm really tired and not seeing a lot of issues, but this opening worked for me okay. I would have liked to get inside the character's head a tiny bit. A hint of what he was doing that got interrupted would be nice. Was he reading? Dozing? Knitting? Also, I found it more than a little strange that he would ask someone to come in and leaves his door unlocked. I had the impression he was inside a house that was occupied by others and that he expected it to be one of them. But if he's in an apartment, or even weirder, a house and just shouts at anyone to come in ... that makes me wonder, and not in a good way.

    Good luck!

    Richard

    Thanks for the comments guys. Obviously I am not the best writer but I am learning and your comments can do nothing but help . He is in an office but I obviosuly didn't get that across well enough. Thanks.

    kathy

    In an office? Now the dripping mud makes sense. I too thought it was a house and wondered why he didn't know it was raining when he opened the door.
    But I did like it, and would turn the page. I overwrite all the time and didn't realy notice it until Ray pointed it out.
    Keep at it!

    Kami

    I remember the original and what I'd suggest is that you:
    A. Find a happy medium between establishing the setting and getting the action moving, and
    B. Establishing some tension in that setting/office before the zombie shows up. The tension can be low-key, like the Harry Potter opening referenced in a recent flog, or higher key--he can be working on something really important, something that if it doesn't get done, will have impact on the world. I don't mean necessarily that the city will blow up or the world will end, but maybe a family will go hungry, or an important message won't reach its destination, or something along those lines. Ideally it'll be a detail that will tie back into the story.

    Good luck!

    Jon

    Sorry this took me a bit. We had layoff at my company yesterday, and though I survived I've been a bit distracted :)

    --

    This one still doesn't work for me, alas. First the good, though:

    I very much like the way it starts with a Mysterious Stranger (whom I'll be calling call Smellyman).

    I also could be convinced to like an intro with "nothing happening," perversely, though I'd like to have the scene set a bit more before the dialog begins if that's how the book is going to begin. "Come in..." through "...entered" could be anyone, anywhere, so it does nothing to help get me situated in the piece. Between the non-evocative dialog and the non-existent setting, I'm just floating, listening to a radio play.

    Setting the scene--either through description, or through something special about the dialog--might help set the mood and setting at the same time:

    --

    "Come in." His voice was hoarse from yelling last night, but it was totally worth it. Ringside seats, baby.

    The same knock . . . knocked.

    "It's--" William coughed. Was it just the sore throat? What was that smell? "It's open."

    Still no one entered.

    Bastard. Making him get up. Didn't they know how much he'd drunk?

    --

    ...or whatever. I believe a piece might be able to start with "nothing happening" if it's got "something" underlying it--character and setting. Better is to start with character and setting with "something happening," mind. But I think it can work the other way, if the voice is strong enough.

    (It -would- probably make sense, though, to take the suggestions from others and just jump into the door-opening, where things get interesting.)

    Last, I liked the detail that the guy was in a cloak. In the age-of-radiators, that's a visual oddity, and it intrigued me.

    Unfortunately, the piece has some significant writing issues that prevented me from enjoying it.

    I'd like to see the two monster sentence-paragraphs (#6 and #7) broken up and paced better--either tightened (if brevity is the goal) or expanded (if drama is the goal).

    There's a lot of not-very-important words happening: "filled his nostrils" "grasping the handle, he opened the door," "partly because..., but also because..."

    What are Smellyman's most important details? What is the most important effect they have on Will.i.am? What does the writer want the reader to take away from this encounter? How should the reader feel about William and Smellyman? How can the writer structure the relationship between those things in such a way to guide the reader to the intended responses?

    I'd recommend looking into these questions and others like it, and taking another shot at this opener. It has potential, but it needs some pretty good work.

    Good luck!

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