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    Jon

    Reluctantly, no, for me.

    First, the good, which made it a -reluctant- no: there's great drama inherent in the situation. Well chosen. And the writing itself is promising--grammatically proficient and driven by active verbs. I really did enjoy the sentence-level writing style, particularly the limited use of "said", and the even more limited use of "was" forms. These are very good things.

    But for me, they weren't enough; larger concerns stopped me. The piece had two main trouble areas for me:

    + Over-reliance on cliches

    + "Surfacy" writing

    The scenelet is related at somewhat of a remove, both in POV (no real engagement with a character's POV) and in logic (e.g., if the courtroom is crowded enough that there's a "din" there, how did the bodies not soak up the "echoes" of the gavel and the victim's mother?)

    Despite the capable sentence-level writing, I never got beneath the skin of the scene or the characters in any meaningful way, was never surprised or excited or engaged in any of the three characters--and the situation was so promising that I really -should have- been.

    I think this bit -does- have promise as a starter, and it's worth looking at again. If the writer does so, I'd recommend looking for:

    a) Opportunities to go under the characters' skin in a real, grounded way that makes the characters real to the reader.

    b) Opportunities for characters or situation to include the unexpected.

    (note that b) may very well lead to a). )

    What if, for example, instead of the victim's mother crying, she started laughing, with a deep, deep cynicism, the kind that shows the reader that no good has -ever- come to this woman, and she expects nothing else in the future? What would Madison's reaction have been, not knowing why the mother was laughing? How would the defendant have reacted?

    What if, instead of exploding into a movie-like buzz of motion, the reporters had sat stock-still, so quiet that you could hear sweat dripping from the defendant's forehead?

    What if the defendant had looked regretful that he hadn't been convicted?

    I'm not recommending any of these specifically, but I'm trying to urge the writer toward looking at things differently. Right now, the situational cliches may present a substantial barrier to sale, particularly if they continue throughout the piece.

    The other significant problem I had was with the "surfacy" feel the piece gave me. I attribute that mostly to the lack of a consistent POV.

    -starting very distant, unattached: On the count...murmured

    -moving close-ish, though not immersed in Madison: choked...swallowed...

    -pulling distant again: the hammering...animal

    -moving very close: she had promised...lost?

    -to a distant, removed narrator: guilt...Titanic

    -and then coming close again: ...in his lying eyes?

    The bouncing back and forth was -very- disorienting and caused disengagement.

    Also, the similes (like the Titanic, like an eerie wail of a wounded animal), while different (well, the Titanic one, anyway) felt imposed on the writing rather than organic to the character's native viewpoint; they were narrative creations, not the character's thought processes.


    Hopefully this give the author something to think about and work with! Good luck!

    Deana

    Whew, Jon. You're a difficult act to follow!

    Although I was interested enough that I would have turned the page to see if it "got good," I second the immediate need for a POV character the reader can identify with.

    I read on another blog or somewhere that readers are like first-time visitors to a strange neighborhood. They need to have a friend, a guide, early on, or else the writer runs the risk that the visitor will wander lost and forlorn and grow frustrated, or worse, lose interest.

    Not sure how well I retold that, but it's still great advice if you think about it! (IMO anyway.)

    Jon

    I do tend to ramble on, don't I... :)

    I'm not sure how I feel about NEEDING to latch on to a friend/character in the initial paragraph. (You'll see how that shakes out in the next piece of mine that Ray posts, when he's kind enough to do so).

    It may be that you just -do-. But I'm wondering if (if the writing is good enough) the reader can be strongly engaged without that initial character-connection, as long as:

    a) the writing is initially good enough to pull the reader along, and

    b) such a connection -is- made, before the reader's attention flags for lack of someone to identify with.

    Or maybe in that case the narrative voice forms that "friend" for you; maybe the reader subconsciously thinks "I'll go with you, Dear Narrator, because you engage me."

    Hrm.

    mai

    "Were those tears in his lying eyes?", the most conflict-laden sentence in the opening, immediately engaged me with the defendant's story. I assume the defendant is not the main character. There was nothing strong enough, elsewhere, to engage me with the DA or any other character. I was left wondering who or what I was reading about.

    Somehow the author needs to connect more deeply with the main character. If that connection is made, the main character's story will tell itself with more authenticity and power.

    Deana

    Jon, you ask:

    "But I'm wondering if (if the writing is good enough) the reader can be strongly engaged without that initial character-connection,"

    Maybe, maybe not. I used to open with immediate action and figured the reader wouldn't mind following my cleverly laid-out bread crumbs.

    Then after I read that advice about the neighborhood/friend, I found it much easier to write an effective opening and to really feel the heartbeat of my story start off strong, right from the beginning.

    It's like a courtesy in a way, yanno? Like a good host greeting a guest and making graceful introductions.

    mai

    Well-said, Deanna. I'm doing lots of reading & watching of films to better learn how to construct a story and keep it strong. Your point resonates with what I'm experiencing.

    (Sometimes a important character connection slides under my radar at first. In a movie called "A Time for Drunken Horses," a child named Madi, who's introduced early on, seems passive and unimportant to making the story move forward. By the end, I realized it was his point of view, experiences and feelings that told me the most about the film's story. I wonder how to make a "stealth" main character like Madi work, in a book.)

    Kami

    I too would have been drawn in sooner if I was closer to the D.A. Instead of 'as if no one had heard' I'd rather she respond to the din in the room directly. Is the noise background, or does it feed her distress? Instead of wondering how she could have lost, have her get specific about her failures and victories--she'd hoped A would have pulled them through, but the jury focused on B. It's a good time to lightly and tangentially touch on what he's actually accused of--she knows he took the money, or beat that poor man near to death, or whatever. And would she really blame the jury? Why? Although that detail was personal and helps bring me closer to her, at the same time I had to wonder how good of an attorney she could be if she blames the jury for the outcome rather than case presentation, rulings regarding evidence, the other attorney playing dirty, etc.

    I hope this helps!

    Anne-Marie

    I just learned how to get to the comments. lol Sorry it's taken so long to jump in with my thanks for your comments. They'll definitely help me tighten my first pages.

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