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    Topher61

    I found the writing sensual. It's amazing what the sound of the zipper being closed can raise in your mind.

    The history of the dress is boring. If you cut that, I would have kept reading.

    kathy

    At first I was a little confused about who was talking. I would also take out mind's thoughts. I thought the imagry was very good, then the mention of mother, UGH!

    mai

    Kathy's "then the mention of mother, UGH!" is the key to something, I think.

    This opening is damping down its sizzle possibilities.

    The dress story is the biggest example of what's going on. The dress details are distracting, and seem to be a lot of word noise meant to deflect someone (readers? writer? both?) from the sensual potential of the scene. The dress's history and the mom take the reader right out of the bedroom. Tension and suspense dissipate as the story of the dress is being told.

    Another example is "I didn't want to move as I watched him pull up his jeans." Would the woman watching the guy really react by not wanting to move? I'd think she'd want to make a move. Maybe she'd be holding her breath, or holding still, but "I didn't want to move" sounds reluctant, tired, bored or even fearful. You want her to be holding back from making a move, not not wanting to make a move, if you see what I mean.

    As a woman, I know it's hard to be direct sometimes. Many women writers pull their punches or get coy with things like violent action and sex. I think this is an expression of personal discomfort with, or lack of experience exploring, such things, because most readers have no problems reading such scenes.

    C

    I'm sorry; I would not have read on. :(
    Jeans with no undies - ouch and uck for me.
    Aside from Ray's crit, which is dead on, the man's line of dialogue didn't sound natural to me.
    Also, she's getting hot watching him dress, then savoring the dirty thought, then turning him down for a quickie? Not in my world. LOL
    Description of the dress bothered me, too. It seemed out of place.

    The writing itself was fine. I hope this wasn't too harsh. Good luck.

    Norm Benson

    I too thought the writing to be sound. I would cut the remaining words in the paragraph following "Oh shit."

    The description of the dress worked for me, but the history may be too soon for such backstory.

    Ray is right on about tension lacking. If he is late what happens?

    Maybe if he's late one more time he's fired. Now, if they take time for a quickie there are consequences.

    Sheila

    Okay, this is not my genre, but I'll put in my $.02:

    What I now know about Bill - he's hot, he goes commando, he doesn't hear the alarm and he can't make his own breakfast. Is he deaf? Did he put the alarm clock in another room? Who doesn't hear their alarm? And didn't she hear it? What's wrong with these people? (I know, picky, but these sort of things bother the logical part of my brain). So far, Bill isn't looking like any sort of prize.

    I liked the scene of her watching him dress and enjoying the show. I don't think she needs to act on it.

    I liked the writing here, but agree with Ray that it needs more tension.

    Also, Ray, could you elaborate on "experiential description?" I've not heard that before.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Samantha

    Sorry, I wouldn't have read on either...Also, this sentence bothered me:

    Savoring my mind's thoughts while slipping out from under the covers, my feet found the floor.

    Am I missing something or is this a dangling participle? Her feet are not savoring thoughts.

    C

    I wasn't voting for a quickie. (Ask my husband.)
    I was pointing out her thoughts didn't jive with her actions. Totally agree with the inconsistencies Sheila mentioned, too.

    Ray Rhamey

    Sheila, "experiential description" is a term I've coined for using description to describe a character because it's filtered through the experience of the character.

    It's a chapter in the book I'm working on, sort of the best of FtQ, and it's based on an earlier post that you can find here:

    http://www.floggingthequill.com/flogging_the_quill/2006/06/writing_for_eff.html

    Check it out.

    Ray

    Sheila

    Thanks, Ray! That was really helpful.

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