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    Sheila

    Great critique Ray, I learn a lot from seeing how you edit!

    This felt like a first draft to me - a good start, but needing work. The typo - "gasp" should be "grasp" I think, the way they change locations without warning, the overwriting, these are things I'm guilty of, but usually catch after a re-read or two (or twelve).

    Also, what are his conflicted feelings? Glad to see his son, but sad that it's been so long? Maybe you could show this a bit more with his internal dialog, and mix in resentment for the step-dad (conflict!) Instead of the corn-stalk similie (which didn't really work for me either), have him marvel at how his son has grown.

    Good luck!


    Norm

    Looong learning curve indeed. Ray's discussion of the medical terms is constructive. With so many medical shows on TV, plus medical thrillers by Robin Cook, Michael Crichton, et. al., we think we know a bit about medical procedures (whether we do or not is another matter). But, I think the point is that we expect jargon (especially between colleagues and internal dialog).

    The first paragraph confused me. "I had conflicting feelings as my son James rushed up the steps of the hospital. ... His teenage body waved like a stalk of corn in a storm as he moved across the hospital lobby toward me." I don't know where I'm watching from. It comes across as third-person omniscient. Could Bart see his son walk up the outside steps when he's standing across the lobby (looking through a window?)?

    About Ray's edit of the "asked" attribution. I know Elmore Leonard recommends using "said" 99% of the time. I've put "said" in the attribution following a question mark and my writing group critique friends always change it to "asked." One of my group is a published mid-lister so I assume it is not yet universally accepted. It's something of a "skunk" word, smells either way.

    My thought about how to start the story might be to have Bart see his son come into the lobby and wave to him. His pager goes off and Bart answers, gets info, quickly hugs his son and runs away saying, "It's an emergency, I'll be back soon." That loads on the tension for Bart to wonder if his son will be waiting when he gets back.

    I hope these thoughts help. Writing simply takes a great deal of honing.

    Good luck.

    Scott from Oregon

    The advice I would give this author is this-- If you are going to tell a story in first person, tell it in first person! I mean really become the character telling the story. Try to figure out the "voice" of the guy telling the story. Try to find it and try to keep it.

    "I had conflicting feelings as my son James rushed up the steps of the hospital. I looked at my watch. He was three hours late. I had seen only pictures of him for the past ten years. He had taken a train and subway from Connecticut to Brooklyn Heights. His teenage body waved like a stalk of corn in a storm as he moved across the hospital lobby toward me."

    Let me take a stab at a "voice" in the first paragraph. Remember, this is just a quick stab as demonstration, so please, no laughing...

    I hadn't seen my kid in ten years and the the thought of him showing up any moment scared the hell out of me. He was already three hours late and I wasn't sure if I'd recognize him as it was. I kept looking at my watch. The hospital lobby was quietly busy as I looked out and saw him, young and spindly and swaying like a corn stalk. I tried to compare him to his pictures. My god, had it been ten years?

    Norm

    Pretty good, Scott. I'd maybe show a piece or two of the "quietly busy" lobby and say why seeing my son after 10 years scared me, but not bad.

    JanW

    I think this could go somewhere. Busy doctor reconnects with grown(?) estranged(?) son.

    The listing of components of the devices is similar to one of my own transition sins: thinking like a technical writer instead of a novelist. Being aware that you're doing it is the first step to letting it go. Be careful when you write your medical reports, though, and don't confuse with novel style! (that was supposed to be a joke)

    As for said versus asked when the dialogue is a question, my reviewers also change to asked. But in Larry's story, the dialogue tag isn't needed at all, frankly.

    The next line: Not Dad. I nodded. "Yes, James." NOTE: separate actions from dialogue. Dialogue is not nodded. Heads are nodded. Dialogue is said or asked.

    These are craft things and very learnable. We all have done this or similar. So don't give up.

    Mai

    The corn stalk metaphor stopped me cold. If the boy were waving that obviously, he'd be on the point of collapse. If he were like a corn stalk bending under the force of the wind of a storm, he'd be a walking cartoon character. The seconds it took for my mind to try to reconcile something realistic with the images the metaphor created took me right out of the story.

    Words like procrastinated and visitation are too formal for the emotional setting.

    I can attest to the long learning curve. I worked on my first chapter for fourteen months before it was passable. I was feeling good about it, but an editor advising me has asked me to write character sketches before proceeding, as he can see ahead to trouble (with poorly-defined characters and lack of drama) if I don't.

    If anyone had told me fourteen months ago that it would take that long, I wouldn't have believed them. If they'd convinced me, I'd have stopped writing. Fortunately, no one told me. The work of writing is so deeply engaging, you don't notice the time passing. Once you get a chapter of a book in decent shape, it's exhilarating.

    Topher61

    Mai, then there are us really slow learners who have taken 14 years, not months, to get the first chapter right.

    Jessica

    I liked this opening. There were a lot of story questions for me, as well as a terrific setup for tension and conflict: the doctor being called to an emergency at the moment he's being reunited with his long-lost son.

    In my unpublished opinion, all the elements are here for a good opening, and it's just a matter of jiggling the order of events and whittling away unnecessary words to increase the tension.

    Nice work!

    Jessica

    I liked this opening. There were a lot of story questions for me, as well as a terrific setup for tension and conflict: the doctor being called to an emergency at the moment he's being reunited with his long-lost son.

    In my unpublished opinion, all the elements are here for a good opening, and it's just a matter of jiggling the order of events and whittling away unnecessary words to increase the tension.

    Nice work!

    Larry Chiaramonte

    thnks for your comments and encouragement
    may I send a rewrite? Dr C

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