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    Marianne

    I expect there is a good idea at the heart of this story but the wordiness and repetition would probably mean I wouldn't pursue it far.I agree with Ray that I needed something to make me experience the something bad that had happened/was about to unfold,rather than being told mysteriously about it in several different ways.

    I think some hard editing and a bit more immediacy would strip the story down and make it more compelling.

    Amy

    I'm with Marianne- I can see a glimmer of a really good idea. Ray did a great job tightening up the writing.

    Chro

    You know what might be an exciting way to start this story? Actually SHOW the dream, and why it's so terrifying. Even the last five seconds of the nightmare would grab the reader more than this. A nightmare isn't particularly threatening after you've woken up from it. It's a bit like starting a story with:

    Jeff breathed a sigh of relief. "Wow, I don't know how we got out of that one!"
    "I feared for my life!" Jennifer agreed.
    "Anyway, let's go get a cup of coffee."

    Sally

    I recently read on an agent's blog that waking up from a dream as an opening is considered cliche and usually warrants an instant reject. (Also, openings that take place on a plane that is about to land.)

    Apparently these are being (over)done by a lot of authors these days.

    Just FYI.

    Danie

    After reading this introduction to the story, I did wonder why Amanda was having nightmares. Margaret seemed to expect them. So I have to think there's an interesting reason for them.

    However, I do agree with Ray that the overwriting suggests an attempt to create mystery with style rather than substance.

    Tightening up the text, and making it a little less stylish (i.e., repetition at the beginning of sentences) would speed up the pace and create more tension.

    That said, I really do want to know why 15 year-old Amanda is having Thoroughbred-size nightmares. (I liked the Thoroughbred analogy, btw, and hope that Amanda is a rider.)

    tomdg

    What kind of person is Amanda? I can't tell from this (age and gender excepted). If she's a spoilt brat, then maybe the nightmares are a good thing? Things that might help might include:
    - hearing her voice more in the writing (e.g. using her vocabulary, describing things as she'd think of them).
    - hints of the contents / decor of the room (not a full description, maybe just a single item that infers something about her character: cuddly toy, trophy shelf, horsy posters, flowery curtains, barred window, tidy or messy ...
    - knowing how she relates to Margaret (mum, little sister, classmate, fellow inmate?)
    - using a more precise word instead of "room": bedroom, cell, dorm ...

    Personally I like the effect of using fragments as you do in your second paragraph; to me, they feel less wordy than full sentences. But it's probably something to do sparingly, and you still need to be wary of too much repetition.

    I was going to suggest starting in the nightmare too, but if that's now a cliché, you'll need to start elsewhere. But please, not with a flashback :)

    On a side thread, if a plane landing is a cliché, does the same apply to a train journey? Darn, there go half my openings ...

    TMM

    First off I thought there was a lot of showing vs. telling. The entire second paragraph tells us that she's filled with regret and sorrow, that she has a really bad feeling, that the darkness beyond her eyelids was ominous.

    That's all fine - but... why? Show it instead of telling.

    Topher1961

    Sally, what agent's blog talked about an airplane landing as a starting for a novel being a cliche?

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