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    Theadra

    I agree with you, Ray. This was a lot of telling. I see good writing, but it's getting lost in the information that is presented. If this is really where the story starts, maybe we could see Jimmy stumbling up, have him beg a little bit at the door and tell our main character that he has no where else to go. We could see the indecision, and even get a little information as the character thinks about their choices. It could be re-worked to be a scene although I still have to ask why it's important but maybe that would be explained later. Happy Holidays.

    TMM

    That's exactly what I was thinking Theadra - and it's great advice. A scene like that would be enough to spark my interest and more officially introduce us to both characters at once. =)

    Ing

    I can see the point Ray and the other commenters are making--a lot of telling where some showing might be more effective--but I was intrigued by the potential of the unstable dynamic between Jimmy and the protagonist.

    I would probably have read on.

    Partly it's because I've known a couple of characters like Jimmy (and been taken advantage of by them in various ways even when I should have known better), so it hits a little close to home. And partly it's the description of Jimmy outside the door "in the middle of the night with that wry smile on his face and one eyebrow raised." That's what hooked me in more than anything else. It gave me a little window into how Jimmy affects and manipulates the protagonist, and also made him seem rather likeable (as most people of his sort are, of course).

    Anyway, if I can give my own two cents (fwiw) I'd say take Ray's (and the other commenters') advice seriously, but don't blow up your story for it, either. Tighten up and revise, definitely, but I think that there's a lot of good stuff going on in your writing already.

    It's not the sort of story I generally seek out, but if I picked it up in a bookstore, I'd still have a hard time putting it down. I bet my wife would really like it. :)

    Marianne

    Thanks for the comments everyone.

    I can see the point about showing not telling, and now think maybe the scene could start with a brief piece of dialogue before that para.

    I agree, Ing, that it could use some tightening, and I'm now inspired to re-edit the scene. Thanks for your positive comments about Jimmy's character, it makes me feel that I've got his essential traits across.

    That's an interesting point Ray about using the scene as backstory - I wouldn't want to lose it altogether because the way Jimmy hooks the protagonist in is how he continues to keep her hooked.

    I shall keep re-reading and re-writing - thanks!

    Marianne

    Having just posted a question on Nancy's flogometer it raised another one in me, related to my own writing.

    On another writers' site I read a comment, from a well known and respected author, that agents generally regard anything written in present tense as looking amateur, and tend to reject such an MS. The second part of my opening is in present tense - Ray showed some of it - but no one seems to have viewed that negatively.

    Any thoughts?

    Ray

    I'm not sure a well-known and respected author is qualified to speak for any more than one agent.

    I suspect that the truth is that a first-person narrative may reveal not-ready-for-prime-time writing more quickly than other points of view.

    You'll also find authors and agents talking about how first-person delivers a more intimate and credible narrative than third person--provided, of course, that it's well done.

    I've a novel on the desks of three literary agents that's in first person, and I don't think it could work any other way.

    I've also written a novel in first person, and it worked, but the novel felt like it needed another character's point of view, so I rewrite the whole thing in third-person limited, added the second character, and the novel was much better.

    So, in my view, I wouldn't shy away from first person because of opinions that it's amateurish. If you do it very well, just like published, best-selling authors on the market do now, no one will be rejecting it for that reason. IMO.

    Ray

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