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    Dominique

    Some of the best advice I got on my writing came from a Miss Snark-like teacher. She was blunt and didn't waste words. She didn't try to soften her critique with euphemisms (which was face to face, btw), yet she wasn't mean about it, either. I took it in the spirit it was offered, and I learn a great deal from her. In fact, she was the most popular teacher in that English dept.

    I read this piece as an agent would. I wasn't trying to be harsh; I was trying to be honest. Anything less would be embarrassing to a serious writer. After all, the point of a critique is to learn how to improve your writing.

    Ray

    Dominique, I didn't mean to imply that you were intentionally being harsh, but wanted to point out that sometimes direct statements can have more meaning and impact than intended.

    It was extremely valuable for you to point out that the character, as initially described, gave the impression of being a cliche. The point is that a novice writer can take things absolutly literally, and might take a quick judgement such as this to heart and thus have some trouble.

    In the coaching I do when editing, I try to give reasons why I form the opinion I do in terms of how it can damage the story, and then try to suggest alternatives.

    It may be great for you to have a Miss-Snark-like teacher, but others may not be able to deal with her kind of blunt terminology. For example, Miss Snark can get away with calling writers "nitwits" because she's established that persona, and we all know that it's said with a kind of left-handed affection.

    But without that, I believe it's better to go overboard in consideration than to under-do it.

    Keep your comments coming, though. They definitely help the writer. And be honest. I don't think it's less honest to say, "Your character feels like a cliche to me." than it is to say, "Your character is a cliche." In fact, the former statement is more accurate because, with one sentence to go by, how can anyone know that a character is a cliche?

    Also, face-to-face as in your experience, with body language and tonality apparent, is a very different than a pronouncement on an Internet post without the accompanying "modifiers."

    Thanks,

    Ray

    Dominique

    Points taken :~)

    Wendy

    That's a remarkably detailed critique, Ray, and you make some excellent points. I've had my authorial throat-clearing pointed out before, and it's an impulse I still struggle with, at least in first drafts.

    Minor observation: I found the temporal shift in the second paragraph a bit jarring:

    "Steve Chin's 3 A.M. call had awoken her with the news of a possible outbreak of Ebola in the Philippines. She had been in the tenth grade the first time Ebola exploded outside of Africa."

    I thought the past and present could have been better linked, e.g., "Steve Chin's 3 A.M. announcement of a possible outbreak of Ebola in the Philippines took her back to tenth grade, when Ebola had first exploded outside of Africa."

    Kammy

    Ray, you are putting such detailed care into each submission, it's much more than I had anticipated. I'm impressed, and very glad I found out about this.

    Thanks also to Dorothy for your advice to start a scene as late as possible and end it as early as possible. I may print that out and tape it to my computer screen.

    I'm beginning to understand that starting the story in the right place can make all the difference in the world. I agree with other folks who said to get right to the action -- a 3am phone call, and suddenly Kristin is thrown into the middle of an Ebola crisis -- and let the backstory come out later. The beginning as it stands does not grab me and draw me in, but the story idea itself is scarily exciting, something I'd really be interested in reading. And I bet that once we get a few more pages in, it does get exciting and scary ('cause, after all, it's Ebola!). I suppose the challenge is to excite us up front, pull us in immediately and make us care what happens from the very first sentence. Good luck to you, author!

    Jennifer

    I found the first read a bit difficult to grasp what the writer was trying to show. After the second and third read, I got a better grasp of the overall picture. But, the backstory took too much away from the here and now and what was the importance of Ebola, when Ebola is such a scary word to throw around.

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